🦾Eric Nowoslawski

Founder Growth Engine X | Clay Enterprise Partner

I am a direct response outbound lead generation expert. And by that jumble of words, I mean that I leverage cold email to build predictable revenue pipelines for my clients. 

I leverage over 20 databases to merge Firmographic, Technographic, and Persona data to build highly targeted playbooks with my clients. 

I believe we need to arm sales teams with the knowledge of their total Target Addressable Market and teach them how to score that Market for which companies have the most pain and need their solution. 

The best way to do this is to look at public indicators such as open jobs data, employee growth/attrition, social media growth, web traffic, new product launches, employee sentiment, individual employee tech investment, company tech stacks, etc.

With this data, not only are you only messaging with people that you know have a problem that you can solve, you also are armed  with powerful messaging that cuts through the noise. 

I teach sales teams to embrace technology and multiply what is possible per employee.

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There is actually a limit to cold email reply rates.

Knowing this can hopefully free you from testing things that won't matter.

Let me explain.

I have worked with customers in the past that are obsessed with getting the reply rate as high as possible. They think if they send a good enough email, every single person who could possibly see it is going to respond.

We've run tests that show this just isn't the case.

We had the opportunity to work on behalf of Forbes at Web Summit. We had the list of speakers. We had all their emails. We cold emailed them from infrastructure that had warmed up for four months. The pitch was simple: "This is our booth. We want to interview you for Forbes. Book a meeting." And we sent them a link to Forbes.com.

That only got a 30% reply rate. Basically all positive.

When I say "only" 30% — if I were a speaker at an event and Forbes wanted to interview me, I would think the reply rate would be even higher than that.

We also helped a customer email their own customers. We found data that showed they needed a new product, and we could fix the problem for free.

Still only a 10% reply rate.

I say all this because these two examples are pretty undeniably good offers. And they still did not get 40, 50, 60% reply rates.

When you're sending emails, there are so many reasons why somebody doesn't respond. They didn't even see it. It got mixed up with everything else in their inbox. It's just not the right time for them.

When you've run a couple of experiments and the reply rate is staying pretty steady, I would think more about experiments around lists and experiments around offers versus trying to change the copy to see if an AI personalization or a fancier way of saying something is going to move the needle.

List segmentation and changing your offer matter way more.

What experiments have you run that changed your thinking on reply rates?

Kellen Casebeer

Helping companies find Message-Market-Fit | Founder @ The Deal Lab

Obsessed with speed to value.

The #1 revenue struggle that most companies face is their inability to consistently & repeatably generate pipeline that converts into stable revenue.

I’ve built a systematic way of dividing a market, identifying where your buyers are within it, and rapidly testing messaging against those segments in the pursuit of Message-Market-Fit.

For less than the cost of an SDR I can run cold outbound campaigns (phone and/or email) on your behalf and establish what works vs what doesn't.

10x the volume, 10x the quality, and 10x the rate of learning vs doing it yourself or hiring a jr sales rep to try.

I do this through my company, The Deal Lab.

We are a proud Smartlead Certified Partner, which means the #1 tool for people building businesses like ours has recognized us for our excellence in the space.

If you’re considering building an outbound program, or have one that isn’t performing like you wish it would - give me 30 minutes to change your perspective & I guarantee you’ll want to find ways we can keep the wins rolling together… people often remark that they're stunned what I'll do for free and confused why I don't paywall my helpfulness.

When I'm not running my business, I also hangout in the free communities that I have built for digital sellers & side hustlers with the goal of being everything I wanted ((and needed)) but didn't have access to earlier in my career.

I'm also really into submission grappling ((BJJ)), holistic health, lifting weights, and taking Lindy walks in the California sunshine with my beautiful family.

If you're a sales rep, sales leader or Founder with questions or looking for support on something - drop me a DM 🤠 I love chopping it up and solving problems with my fellow sellers ❤️

Message-Market-Fit is when you know exactly what to say in your prospects’ own language to book consistent outbound meetings with them.

We’ll help you find it for less than the cost of an SDR.

Then we’ll either keep running our systems and booking calls for you, or we can build & train your in-house team on exactly how we do it.

Chosen as 1 of 25 Smartlead Certified Partners.

A guiding principle that serves me well is:

It is much more rare to be potently valuable, than it is to be rewarded for being potently valuable

All Enterprise sellers get enterprise OTE, but only a subset hit their number

All companies who raise a seed round aim at revenue targets they believe they can hit, only a subset go on to raise their next round

What this causes, is hesitancy and skepticism in buyers

Humans are wired to survive (attuned to fear // risk) vs survive (focused on max potential and top end outcomes)

It is difficult to overcome this fear, and the best way I have found is approach the world with a big-a*s abundance mindset

"Everything I will ever receive in life is on the other end of something I will do for someone else".

It freed me to seek opportunities to make an impact vs make a dollar

It freed me to seek out challenging opportunities with low assurance, because I knew being asymmetrically useful in these situations would lead to invites into further demand down the line...

It is easy to know what you "want" in life, much harder to figure out "what you are willing to give".

My Dad always said "love what you do, never work a day in your life"

This drives many people to think "What do I, me, love to do?" - which can be confusing

I've seen & lived, that it is hard to feel anything but joy "fighting alongside others" in high stakes environments

That’s the game I like to play; “how do I become undeniable.”

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